Sunday, September 29, 2013

"Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and I..."       Robert Frost

Question


               Should we spotlight the prehistoric information available on human sacrifice or stay with the historic data.  If we stay with the historic data, do we work with the BC, the pre-Columbian times, post Columbian times, more modern times?  Rat now?

Prehistoric:

               Most sources agree that prehistoric existence, at best, left things to be desired.  Some list poverty, disease, and death.  Others say famine (starvation), disease, and war.  The difference seems to be academic

                Somehow death was always threatening and seemed to be controlled by a greater, possibly unseen, Power(s).

                Archeology looks for clues at burial sites dating back up to 300,000 years.  People were sometimes buried with items they might need for a continued journey, possibly indicating a life after death was at least suspected to be a possibility.  Sometimes burial sites contained jewelry, utensils, tools, weapons.  Sometimes the site contained other people who died with the princpal.  Sometimes the site contained other people who were killed to go with them.  Were these people who were killed a sacrifice?  No.  Or were they?

               If death and it's cousins were controlled by Powers that be, how could a person communicate with that Power, maybe gain it's friendship or co-operation, protection.  We've all heard of that "apple for the teacher".  When visiting someone we seem to tend to want to take them a present, some flowers, perhaps.  It  takes no imagination to picture wanting to give a present to a very powerful personage, so that they might, if not favor you, just don't mess with you.  Is that called a bribe?  Yes, you recognize the term.

               How do you reach the Powers?  Well man being a social animal he/she might look around for someone who might know.  Some would say in the caves.  "They live behind the wall in the caves."  "You can't just talk to them, though, it's like talking to a deer or an elk or a mammoth, but you hang in there..."  But if you let me draw a picture on the cave wall, then they may see them when they come in the cave at night, and they'll eat the food we leave for them, and see that we want to catch whatever game we have drawn.  ("Of course you'll have to feed me when I'm painting.  I can't hunt and paint, too.)

               Sooner or later you feel called upon to give a nicer gift and then a nicer gift, and soon not just vegetables, a meat gift.  Then you want it to be an animal, especially when you start raising animals in a pastoral setting.  Then you want it to not be "a scrub" but a perfect animal.

               About here, if he/she's not there already, the Shaman* shows up.  She/he may say, in fact may believe, that he/she has talked to the Power(s) when in a trance state.  Trance states are induced many ways.  There is a shortness of Oxygen, a loss of Blood, herbs, etc.  Here is where faith comes in.  There is usually some limited farming by now.  "As with the beans, you plant now, so you can eat later.  You make sacrifices to the Power(s) through me, now, and later you are favored."  "The Power(s) like you and they like you to bribe them.

                Sooner or later, you keep upgrading the bribes until you ask yourself what can I do to upgrade the gift?  Finally it's a human sacrifice.  Then a warrior (possibly a prisoner of war). Then a scholar/warrior, then maybe your first born...

               With farming, of course, sacrifices become more sophisticated.  The Shaman is replaced by a Priest.  There has to be a Temple for the Power(s) to dwell in and receive your gifts.  And, of course the gifts are continually upgraded.  In some civilizations, the sacrifices reached industrial proportions.  There would be thousands of prisoners of war sacrificed.  There would be hundreds of children...

               Quite common was the belief that the first fruits belonged to the Power(s).  The first grapes in the spring, etc. belonged to the Power(s).  If they were offered there would be more.  In fact according to several entries in the Bible, for one book, "Concentrate unto me each first-born,"  saith the Lord.  (Exodus 13:1)  "...man and beast.  It is Mine."

               There is not now, nor probably never will be, proof of the existence of the Patriarchs from the Bible, a Gilgamesh, Achilles, Helen of Troy, but the stories told about their customs is corroborated by archeology.  The killing of sacrifices was commonplace all around the world, especially in spots prone to famine(starvation), war (city states), and disease (anywhere there was t
lack of sanitation, travel, caravans, etc).  Starvation was particularly a problem where rain was not dependable (like the Holy Land, Mexican valley, etc.).  And this instability of rainfall begat a pantheon of "gods".  The chief god in Canaan was called El, as in Israel.  His wife had different names.  One was Astorah.  One of their 70 or so children was called Ba"al (The weather god) or Moloch.

 

               By the time of the purported testing of Abraham in the Crescent (which we talked about earlier which stated that El no longer wanted sons sacrificed), sacrifices to deities  are commonplace, including human sacrifices.
               There are pastoral nomads as Abraham is purported to be, and farmers as were some of the city states in Canaan.  The pastorals needed the farmers and the farmers needed the pastorals...
               There are still plenty of famines, disease, and wars.
 

              

*Shaman is actually a Siberian word that is used by academicians to designate an in trance communicator  with the supernatural  as described here.

 

                              Next:  Historic times

 

 

Background:

               Spent the whole week plunging through the jungle in Mesoamerican Peru.   Then on to Europe, the Celts, the caves, the Druids, the Greeks, by way of another visit or two to the fertile crescent.

               Found Karen Armstrong again.  She has a 7 part video + a book, all titled A History of God

               Youtube rendered an avalanche of other videos on our subject.  The better ones came from BBC, the Discovery Channel, and The History Channel.

                              The Bible Unearthed (History Channel version)

                              History of Jerusalem  HD

                              The Bible's Buried Secrets

                              The wife of God.   BBC

                              Others

               More books are coming, but not here yet.

Monday, September 23, 2013

Tonight I discovered another Discovery Channel Treasure on You Tube.

               Human Sacrifices;  The Bloodthirsty Gods,  I give this one 5 stars.  I intend to watch it several times.

    And by BBC

               History of Jerusalem HD;  Making of a holy City

     There is a whole myriad of DVD's (youtube) on the Bible Unearthed, the one I saw was well worth the time, I thought.   There is also a 4 star book on Amazon, which I intend to get to:     

  The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts by Neil Asher Silberman and Israel Finkelstein (Jun 11, 2002)

      Bob Hill

Sunday, September 22, 2013

Currently viewing

             IM VC 9421    International Terrorism;  Aims and Objectives
            
             IM DV 1263    History's Ancient Legacies   Vol 1  Pompeii
                                                                                    Vol 2  Stonehenge
                                                                                    Vol 3  Aztecs and the Mayans
                                                                                    Vol 4 Ancient Rome
            
             IM DV 1265   History's Ancient Legacies2 
             IM DV 1569   The Power of Myth - Joseph Campbell - with Bill Moyers

I have about 20 more lined up.

Monday, September 16, 2013


How far back do Human Sacrifices date?

What does the Passover Cedar festival instructions tell us about human sacrifices?  (This festival supposedly dates from circa 1300 BC or about 3400 years.

Let's look over the Passover instructions (Exodus 12:14 to 13:16).

               This well read story and list of instructions on a Holy day ritual very important in Jewish and Christian traditions (Go ahead, ask me where I get the Christian part) recounts how the Hebrew deity has just taken every first born of camels, sheep, Pharaoh, the lowest "captive who is in the dungeon" (Exodus 12:29)  at the stroke of midnight.  In the story the deity claims they are His and He has every right to do that. (Exodus 13:1)

               (Exodus 13:1) And the Lord spoke to Moshe, saying, "Consecrate unto me each firstborn, breach of each womb among the Israelites in Man and in beast--it is mine." Then the same deity goes on to say that each first born son of Israel will always be redeemed (excused from sacrifice by payment to the priesthood) always.  One will never be sacrificed.  But here's the kicker.  Apparently sacrifice of first born sons was such an accepted practice in the fertile crescent area, say 500 years after the attested "testing of Abraham" (Genesis 22, already discussed) that this must be taken to testify how commonly accepted a practice sacrificing firstborns was in the entire area.

               Passover is named, as you'll read, about the fact that although the deity is said to have killed all firstborns of Egypt, the deity passed over (Exodus 12:13) houses whose front doors had been very tediously prepared ritually as outlined in specific instructions.  Yes a blood sacrifice was involved.

               But with all this business about sacrifices in the Passover instructions, the Passover celebration was about being freed from slavery in Egypt, not sacrifices.  But these sacrificial practices were apparently so prevalent and accepted that they had to be dealt with as the main instructions progressed.

               How far back do sacrifices and human sacrifices go?  Obviously a lot farther back than these stories which are hard to date, but which predate the written versions, apparently, by a wide margin.  Testing of Abraham would have to approximate 4,000 years ago.  The exodus story, mentioned here, would almost have to stem from about 3300 years ago.
             This is not how long ago human sacrifice started.  By this time some where trying stop it.  Human sacrifice was apparently a very, very old custom already.
 

Next:

               On the subject of "Just what is a sacrifice?" so we can hopefully see "why?" I have several publications (including some great books) which should at least be here by the end of the week.  An example is:          


Human sacrifice in ancient Greece / Dennis D. Hughes.
IN TRANSIT
SEMO-Cape Gir. Kent Library

              


31955902609757
DUE 09-30-13
973.931 W9338l

and

Academic Search Complete (EBSCOhost)  with 11,750 results (under "sacrifice") to browse here at Kent Library (Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, MO.

In the meantime: 

          In the meantime, let's hear from all of you.  Do you agree, disagree?  I can't wait to hear what are you finding out.  Show me where I'm off.

No course or discussion on death amongst a bunch of preppies can go far without playing these poems as background music.  If we don't pull them up to consciousness your subconcious will play them and distract you.  So lets get them out of the way...

                                                                                                         Bob Hill

 
Invictus" is a short Victorian poem by the English poet William Ernest Henley (1849–1903).

 

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.


Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.


It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
 
Then there's Seeger's Poem.  (I Have a Rendezvous With Death)
 
Louis Untermeyer, ed. (1885–1977). Modern American Poetry.  1919.
 
Alan Seeger. 1888–1916
 
121. "I Have a Rendezvous with Death"
 
 
I HAVE a rendezvous with Death
At some disputed barricade,
When Spring comes back with rustling shade
And apple-blossoms fill the air—
I have a rendezvous with Death
When Spring brings back blue days and fair.
  
It may be he shall take my hand
And lead me into his dark land
And close my eyes and quench my breath—
It may be I shall pass him still.
I have a rendezvous with Death
On some scarred slope of battered hill,
When Spring comes round again this year
And the first meadow-flowers appear.
  
God knows 'twere better to be deep
Pillowed in silk and scented down,
Where love throbs out in blissful sleep,
Pulse nigh to pulse, and breath to breath,
Where hushed awakenings are dear...
But I've a rendezvous with Death
At midnight in some flaming town,
When Spring trips north again this year,
And I to my pledged word am true,
I shall not fail that rendezvous.
 
Dedicate this to Dr. French at my old prep school.
 
Now, lets get back to our rendezvous with sacrifices, human sacrifices, and the many ways they are seen now and throughout history.  Lets try to see them as clearly as possible both through our eyes and the feelings and eyes of others.  Let's try for complete clarity, transparency.  If necessary, let's meet it head on.
 

Sunday, September 15, 2013


How did the "Children of Abraham" see sacrificing children?

Sacrifices of children, "first fruits", only child in particular, Near East

 

               Sacrifices, not only human sacrifices, but the sacrifice of children and particularly the first born were of common acceptance in the near east from time immemorial. ( The Bible, Gilgamesh, Homer, to mention a few well known publications substantiate this.)  From the Bible, almost the first thing the first born men (Cain and Abel, Genesis 4:3) did, according to legend and/or text is to make an offering.

 

"Children of Abraham"

When those who deemed themselves to be the "Children of Abraham", who did not believe in sacrificing children, were asked why they did not sacrifice children they would respond with a parable still published today in several collections of books and stories. It is still being published in an included book called Genesis (chapter 22, verses 1-19)under the cover title "The Holy Bible".  It can also be found in the Jewish scriptures (Torah, etc.) and is referred to in the Islamic Readings.  (It is celebrated in the Islamic tradition as Eid al-Adha right after Hagg around the world.) (An animal is supposed to be sacrificed.)

*Abraham's first born named Ismael, according to the Torah and other "scriptural publications" was the son of his second wife Hagar, one of his wife's slaves. (Genesis 16) Ishmael was purportedly the father of the Arabs, later, after Mohammed, to become Islam.  Still, in this story, Genesis names Izaac as Abraham's "only son"(whom he loved).(Genesis 22)  As I say, disagreement is culpable.

 

 

            Understanding this story is aided by knowing something of the story's characters.  (Let other scholars debate whether Abraham was a actual character or a combination of personalities).   The story of Abraham is told in this Book of Genesis (translation of Hebrew word Genesis meaning more or less "In the beginning")  Abram (later named Abraham, purportedly by his deity) first appears in Genesis chapter 11, verse 20.
The Story
            By Genesis chapter 22 Abraham's character and situation have been established as well as possible, to be approximately 112 years old (believed to be normally past child generating age) and with only one child, a son.  The son's name is a bone of contention to say the least between Islamic and Jewish traditions as mentioned earlier, but as an illustration of the belief in sacrifice of children, especially first born, maybe especially only begottens, this debate does not change the belief statement about child sacrifice.

            The Story is already abbreviated to its bare bones in the Book of Genesis, I fully urge you have not read it to read it, those who have read it to re-read it preferably several times until you can feel the feelings between  Abraham, the central character, and both his son and his deity.  The story is also told, tinged by the oral tradition, by Josephus, a Jewish/Roman historian published about 70 AD ("Antiquities of the Jews").  He tells the story more elaborately saying that when the boy realized he was the impending sacrifice, he said something like, "Great, Dad. If that's what you want, and that's what God wants, then that's what I want.  Let's get it on!"

            Bob Dylan tried to modernize the story (or at least refers to it) in a song called Hi-Way  61, if you're interested.

Summary:  Despite ancient traditions, the people designated "Sons of Abraham" could in ancient times, when first fruit and child sacrifice were common, and thereafter, by telling this story, explain why they were not required to sacrifice their children (Abraham wasn't), especially only-begotten and first-borns, especially if you were beyond probable child generating age.  You should be dedicated to the deity enough to do it, but the deity did not require or desire it.

Notes:

"The Five Books Of Moses", by Robert Alter (2004) is probably my favorite translation/discussion of this story.

Reference is also taken from a number of talks and sermons from various Bible scholars, Christian ministers, rabbis, and Islamic scholars that were not transcribed.

Jewish tradition, as well as the story in the scriptures mentioned, holds the son involved to be Isaac (It-zack), progenitor of Jacob and Jacob's 12 sons (tribes Of Israel).

            Other sacrifices made by Abraham are recorded in Genesis, including a very elaborate living sacrifice (not human) made at the event of "sealing" a contract (Chapter 15). This was augmented later by circumcision of all hands including "slaves born in the household and slaves bought with your money from strangers."  (Genesis 17:25)

 

            This is how the Children of Abraham explained to themselves and others that they loved their deity enough to sacrifice their children, but their polynistic deity neither required nor allowed it.   Does this mean that none of them ever did it?  According to all texts, they were always wandering away from "the will of God."

 

                        For next time:  Just what is a sacrifice anyway?  Why give sacrifices?
            I can't believe how many reasons are given.

Saturday, September 14, 2013


                               What is a sacrifice?  Why a living sacrifice?  Why human?      Examples

Pre-Columbian and early Columbian Mexico. 

               The Aztec Priest cuts open the chest of the human sacrifice with such skill and speed as to hold the heart still beating up to the cheering crowd.  This sacrifice is made every morning to insure that the sun will continue to rise that morning.  The mother of the young man who was sacrificed is in the crowd.  She is proud of him.

               Several tribes of Indians in Mexico are said to eat a human sacrifice (of their own people) just before a battle.  Rumor also has it that those who do are never defeated.

Pre British India:

               A Maharajah dies.  One of his wives is required to join him on the funeral pyre, to accompany him.

Mediterranean Area

               Ancient Ur,         Biblical home of the family of Abraham:  A royal member dies.  "All of the royal      entourage including the palace guard is apparently buried with him.  (Discovered in the 1930's.                 scans are now being run on the skeletons).

               Carthage:  A cemetery is found that is believed to contain sacrificed children (1 month to 1.5                years).

               Ancient Egypt: It was quite common for the pharaoh's entourage to be buried alive with him to           help Pharaoh get to wherever he was going and be with Pharaoh when he got there.

               Homer's Troy:  Human sacrifices were eaten by the Greeks just before a battle.

               Palestine, Iraqis:              There are so many suicide bombers today that they don't even make                the news anymore.  Some of these are no doubt politically begun, but terrorist backers remind                perpetrators that it is for Islam.

North America

               Lakota (Sioux):  War prisoners are sometimes tortured to death.  They are otherwise treated as           honored guests.  The prisoners have been trained by their own people since birth toward this                possibility.

               9/11, New York and Washington, DC:  Islamic Terrorists Commandeer 3 US commercial aircraft and crash them into the two Trade Center buildings in the New York financial center killing                approximately 3000 people (others narrowly escaped) and crashed another aircraft into the                Pentagon in Washington, DC.  A third was hi-jacked and beginning to head somewhere else                when it crashed in Pennsylvania.  Investigation has shown that these actions were religiously inspired.

               This represents only a minute few of an uncountable many human sacrifices today and throughout history.                  What is a sacrifice?  Why a living sacrifice?  Why human?